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NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Pastors Get Rich

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 Excellent points Mike.


Here is an interesting article with many of the points you've already made on The Net Team:


http://www.cultwatch.com/HowPastorsGetRich.html


NAME:: Brother Mike

FROM:: Money to live on

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God will provide for those on the farm in spite of ralph's evil doings.

There are brothers and sisters who think living with ralph is the will of God even after ralph has been caught time and time again who God may still recover.

Money from this one or that one will always come to those using the name of God to get gain.

All radio and TV preachers make big bucks and teach every UNGODLY doctrine that can be named.

The delusion is on and money is a big test for many.

See ralph thinks he is okay now that the money is pouring in.

 



NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Mack become poor?

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 If you listen to that clip stair says "Though he was rich he became poor"


How did Mack become poor? By giving all to ralph.


ralph is operating in the same m.o. stealing from the rich and poor to enhance himself.


May God help Craig Mack and others to get out of there.



NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Craig Mack rapper

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 Craig Mack

stair made him give all his money

New audio clip
http://dedicated7.webs.com/audio.htm


rapper.mp3


NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Canada

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 The rapper now living at ralph's compound is Craig Mack.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Mack


NAME::  Steve

FROM::  Woo Teresa back

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 Ole ralph is trying to woo Teresa back by playing her music on the air.


he's also got a million $ rapper living down on the farm

NAME:: Steve

FROM:: False ministers

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 False Ministers


Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.



This does not completely apply to rg stair (parts of it are true)


1. he is not HIS watchman, never has been or will be
2. stair is not ignorant or dumb (better to not have known the way of righteousness than to have known it and turn from it)
3. stair sure does know how to bark (his bark is worse than his bite)
4. not sure if the part "sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber" applies to ralph although Thomas Belford tells us ralf is lazy.
5. "they are greedy dogs" we know this applies to ralph because he loves money and steals from the poor and widows.
6. "shepherds that cannot understand" - ralph does not claim to be a shepherd (pastor) but a prophet
7. "every one for his gain" - stair is greedy of gain



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                                   God's People

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people set in battle array.

 

                                                False Ministers

Isa 56:10 His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant, they are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark; sleeping, lying down, loving to slumber.
11 Yea, they are greedy dogs which can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot understand: they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his quarter.



NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Case Coming Up

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 I heard stair talking about some case coming up on the 9th (tomorrow). Anyone know anything about this?


Hopefully this dog will finally be brought to justice.

NAME:: Rowland

FROM:: Kirk (Son of Man)

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The problem Kirk had with ralph's "SON OF MAN" message was that that sermon put ralph up as head over Kirk.

Religious tycoons like Kirk and Ralph are all fighting for position.

So sure Kirk disagreed with this idea of ralph's that put Kirk under ralph.

But now shifting gears to see as to what disagreement Kirk had with ralph over ralph's sexual abuses. Well I heard that Kirk didn't want to make too many waves in this area because Kirk knew ralph would drum him out also.

The way it was put to me was Kirk tried to mention it over the years and ralph would respond unfavorably. Kirk never brought it up again nor did Kirk warn the innocent families moving it or the one living on ralph's farm.

So once again Kirk was busy with political levels of power not so much with what ralph was doing to his sheep as far as sex abuse.

Kirks message was the same one printed in many commentaries and the Bible itself. Kirk and his drama messages, like ralph's are designed to draw followers under their wing, these revelations always reveal themselves as a special messenger.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Neither Kirk or ralph qualify in the little things to be mighty men of God.

Personally I worked with Kirk and liked him as a man. Kirk is a nice person and as long as he is not struggling for another level of position that day, you probably won't get stepped on on his way up the ladder.

True position given to God's men is something quite different.

 

NAME:: Steve

FROM:: About Kirk

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 You can say a lot of bad about Kirk but I can say some good.


When Kirk came through Walterboro, just a few years ago, he came out with the statement "It's no big deal to be called the son of man."


That statement infuriated ralph stair. he hated that statement because ralph's always gotta be the focal point, the center of attention.


Kirk has also preached some powerful messages such as "The Purpose of the Coming of Christ" which used to be on stair's site for download. stair has since removed Kirk's messages I suspect out of envy.


You see the only revelation truth that ralph has ever got is that which he's stolen or copied from others. ralph has nothing within him except iniquity.


NAME:: Rowland

FROM:: Kirk (Alaska)

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Kirk cared not for those of us who entered the farm where stair had abused many girls before we all came there in the mid 90's. 

Kirk knew what had been going on at ralph's farms for years since 1988.

This was confirmed by Chris G.

Kirk and Chris were the long time followers when the group of the mid 90's showed up.

I had someone call Kirk in Alaska in 2001, where Kirk, his wife along with the entire Brunner family fled. The man that I had call him simply asked Kirk if he had known anything about ralph's past track record concerning sexual abuse and ralph's abuse of power.

Kirk said he knew nothing of this.

Kirk did not warn the flock, nor did Mike Brunner. These men will perish in their lies. Kirk and Mike are all about the worship that they can bring to themselves.

This disqualifies them as true me of God, let alone Prophets.

Any man doing an about face, running from evil, knowing that those that they Pastor would be killed spiritually, is only looking out for number one.

A real man of God does not operate in the spirit of fear, turning tail.

I called to Alaska and talked to Mike and he acted like he knew nothing about the whole thing. I called on another day to talk to one of Mike's son's and got one of Mike's grown daughters.

She did not care that people at the farm were not aware of the sexual abuse there and the fact that they didn't warn the others meant nothing to her.

All that daughter said was she didn't want to hear or know anymore. She did not like the truth concerning her father's action in leaving the little lambs to be slaughtered by the wolf.

For a man to be a Prophet, they first must prove themselves worthy MEN willing to lay down their lives for the flock. Evil doesn't stand a chance in the face of righteous indignation.

Holy men are a strange thing to those living today who view Godliness as some man who only speaks certain words that sound good to the listeners and only the words that they know people like to hear. Beyond that these spiritual imps will always run when put to a real test.

NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Kirk prophecies

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 Kirk prophecies destruction.


Kirk has once again come out with a prophecy about the destruction of the southern states.


"The birth of the child shall be a sign of destruction." Kirk Higbee.


With the birth of their first child to Kirk and Martha in January Kirk has come out with another prophecy that destruction will come to the southern states.


Kirk has not been specific about which states. It was kind of a general prophecy.

NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Teresa Stair Left Farm

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 Teresa has left and has been gone for some time now.


Way to go Teresa. The Bible does not require you to share your bed with a whoremonger.

NAME::  Steve

FROM:: "stair Quote's"

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stair claims to be"The Sign" , "The Preserve of the Church" he loves to

quote that Scripture "By a prophet Israel is preserved."

It aint you ralphy. you ain't no prophet ralph boy.

The devil knows how to quote the Scriptures too.

rg stair claims to be "The Finisher"

Jesus is The Author and Finisher of our faith.

He who began a good work... will perform it till the day of Christ Jesus.

ralph stair is a liar. he ain't no finsiher but he'll be finished soon



NAME:: Rowland

FROM:: Same Thing Today.

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The book of Daniel records that the end times would produce a generation

of people who are full of transgression or a time period when the sinners reach

a peak. Daniel said that these lawless people would destroy the Holy people and 

their power to bring true justice. Below is a brief look at their attributes. 

Proverbs

An ungodly man diggeth up evil: and in his lips there is as a burning fire.
A froward man soweth strife: and a whisperer separateth chief friends.
A violent man enticeth his neighbour, and leadeth him into the way that is not good.
He shutteth his eyes to devise froward things: moving his lips he bringeth evil to pass.

This passage and many others point out the delusional mind set of the wicked. The people here seen to think they can make anything they want to happen by simply saying it is so, regardless of the facts.

This is a true picture of our society as a whole.

The power of death is in the tongue of those who love oppression and yet

the power of life could be used with the same tongue. 

We are all making a choice daily.

Jesus was hated for what He said and if you up hold the word of God

you will be treated the same way. The arrows will come from those who

are close to you or a familiar.

A father against a son, mother against daughter and so on.

Jesus said it and it is true. The Lord is using everything to test you to see 

what is in your heart as a child of the King of Glory.

As for the children of darkness, well they are mere puppets and they are 

as the dust of ash in the wind. No man can fight God.

There is no other God and men can do nothing of himself. 

Try buttering people up that go against God's word and they will 

still give the same answer. Try scolding them. Still the same response.

Without being in the spirit we can not see the will of God for others.

For years I had thought I could pray for family members to make a difference.

The answer still is that I cannot go against another persons will to pursue darkness.

Praying is good yes, but prayer will not save the devil and those who love deception.

The main big one I hear all of the time is why don't I show more love when 

sharing God's messages? My answer is that God's message is pure love even when He is destroying folks.

In other words the religious people I know are accusing me that my version of God's words is not allowing them to live like a normal American. 

Normal American go to Church on Sat or Sun. yet work at their jobs being paid double time and triple during what they all agree is their day of rest.

No they serve money not God. Their master is Money.

Right on the dollar it states that money is their God.

The Almighty Dollar. "In God we trust"

Well now that the money system is failing what gOd will they choose next? 

Religion today and cHurch is all about the dollar. Members must tithe or they are not members.

Come out of Her "MY PEOPLE" because the plagues will come just as stated.

These statements are true love expressions to keep you safe. The only way a persons views them as hate is if they have no desire or intention of following God's word, so they must build a case in their defense.

Those who rebel against the light are now evil and evil becomes good.

The spirit can no longer gain entrance since the person now believes they are already doing the right thing.

Of course we have all been there and done that ourselves from time to time, but I think the biggest difference shows up with the love for truth.

Those that love the truth do not reject those precious beams of light when they come our way. nor do they get angry.

It is at this point the God separates the wheat from the chaff.

NAME:: Jeremiah 20

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8 For since I spake, I cried out, I cried violence and spoil; because the word of the LORD was made a reproach unto me, and a derision, daily.
9 Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.
10 For I heard the defaming of many, fear on every side. Report, say they, and we will report it. All my familiars watched for my halting, saying, Peradventure he will be enticed, and we shall prevail against him, and we shall take our revenge on him.
11 But the LORD is with me as a mighty terrible one: therefore my persecutors shall stumble, and they shall not prevail: they shall be greatly ashamed; for they shall not prosper: their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten.

 

 




NAME:: Rowland

FROM:: Hypocrisy

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Anti Peer Pressure Hypocrisy

Parents, teachers, religious leaders, and other adults influence young people to rebel against their peers.  From early childhood, most of us hear phrases like, “Be strong.  Have your own mind.  Stick to your guns. Be true to yourself. Stand up for what you believe in.  Don’t give in to peer-pressure.”

This is great advice, but I smell a rat. And that rat’s name is hypocrisy.

The same people encouraging young people to not follow the “in crowd” are those who readily conform to the pressures to fit in with their own peer groups.  People tend to adapt to the norms established by their family, friends, religion, and society.

Most adults feel shame or guilt when they step outside of these norms, thus they are more likely to question their Inner Being than to question or rebel against the majority. Doesn’t this make them all but incapable of teaching young people to be free thinkers?

 

http://blog.self-improvement-saga.com/2010/01/peer-pressure-conformity/


NAME:: Steve

FROM:: Ralph's  Hypocrisy

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 You talk about hypocrisies of these men.


ralph stair would get up and preach "Stop going to the doctors!" then he would turn around and run to the dentists and spend tens of thousands of dollars of God's money to fill his mouth with fake teeth.


he's going to hell. The wicked shall be turned into hell.

 

NAME:: RW SCHAMBACH DIES

FROM:: Heart Bypass

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 RW SCHAMBACH the man who preached, "You don't have any trouble!  All you need is FAITH in God!" then went ahead and got a quadruple heart bypass has died from heart failure Tuesday morning.


He was 85 years old.


He sought to extend his life through heart surgery and extend it he did.


Jesus said he who seeks to save his life shall lose it. Look it up.

Steve Jacobs AKA anonymous (many other handles)

 

NAME:: Psa 64

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Psa 64:1........................ Hear my voice, O God, in my prayer: preserve my life from fear of the enemy.

2 Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked; from the insurrection of the workers of iniquity:

3 Who whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot their arrows, even bitter words:

4 That they may shoot in secret at the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not.

5 They encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune of laying snares privily; they say, Who shall see them?

6 They search out iniquities; they accomplish a diligent search: both the inward thought of every one of them, and the heart, is deep.

7 But God shall shoot at them with an arrow; suddenly shall they be wounded.

8 So they shall make their own tongue to fall upon themselves: all that see them shall flee away.

9 And all men shall fear, and shall declare the work of God; for they shall wisely consider of his doing.

10 The righteous shall be glad in the LORD, and shall trust in him; and all the upright in heart shall glory.

 




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Jer 5:23 But this people hath a revolting and a rebellious heart; they are revolted and gone.

26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

27 As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

28 They are waxen fat, they shine: yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked: they judge not the cause, the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper; and the right of the needy do they not judge.

29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?

Psa 140:5 The proud have hid a snare for me, and cords; they have spread a net by the wayside; they have set gins for me. Selah.

 




NAME:: Mike Rowland

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This sums up the hearts of the religious Bible toters, who chime in right  on all of high sounding verses. They will kill you in the spirit and if you step on the wrong toes will start their own inquisition. 

They do not know God. Here is the Bible on this subject. Highminded traitors,

 fierce, despisers, false accusers, lovers of their own selves etc..........

 

2 Tim 3:3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

 

 




NAME:: Bro Rowland

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Hello Net Team (LITTLE FLOCK)

Here are a few of my favorite verses that describe the religious world today,

just as is was in time past.  However Jesus did say that the generation that you and 

I live in today, would be far more corrupt. 

This religious bunch of people living today are so crafty that anyone going to them 

for encouragement and direction is forever lost as they swallow them alive like an

open sepulchre trap.

 

Jer 2:8  The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

 

Jer 5: 13  And the prophets shall become wind, and the word is not in them: thus shall it be done unto them.

 

Jer 14: 15  Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

 

16  And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.

 

Jer 10: 3  For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax.

 

4  They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

 

Jer 12: 10  Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

 

Ezek 22: 25  There is a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.

26  Her priests have violated my law, and have profaned mine holy things: they have put no difference between the holy and profane, neither have they showed difference between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from my sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.

 

 

 





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