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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Nick
From: MA
Are you saying that all that's been said in the last 20 or so posts has been semantics?

"Mainstream goop" meaning:

Semi-palagianistic self-regeneration (most of evangelicalism)

Palagian nonsense (Unitarianism)

Reformed Baptist (Calvinist)

other

Please choose.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: 1 Thes 4
1 Thes 4:4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to PLEASE GOD, so ye would abound more and more.
2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;
5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God:
6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified.
7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
8 He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit.
9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Bro Mike
From: Ellen G. White
Ellen G. White was another false leader teaching that women can rule the Church because their is no difference between male and female.

What a hallucination. This woman was cracked in the head.

However all religious groups have something in them that is true so as to hook their followers, then they introduce a worm that eats the whole truth turning it into fables.

I know people who say that THEIR 7th day wOoden Structure teaches the Bible says

"eating meat is not right"

When the scripture clearly states the opposite.

What a world.

I hope you enjoy your time and that by clean living(LAW)you continue to please God.

Sure without faith as a starting point YOU can not please God.

Faith must be followed by works or it is dead.

Its like telling your wife you love her and then you never prove it in the little nice things a man should do toward her.

By their fruits(works)you will know them.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: Pleasing God
Nick Wrote:

"But I can't agree that the requirement to please God (obedience) is the Law."

You are moving in the right direction away from the mainstream goop.

Great post Nick.

Look at these verses and you can see that obeying the Law does please God, I didn't mean as grounds for works and salvation.

Romans 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the LAW OF GOD, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Nick
From: MA
I looked up the link that you supplied at the top of your post "presenttruthmag". In it I noticed the they lean heavily on the teaching and on the authority of one Ellen G. White, she being they're (the sda's) most prolific writer. I then came upon a quote of her's from the book "The great controversy" (circa 1858). It's real gobbedly-gook. Please disregard the question, I meant no ill-will by it.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Nick
From: MA
Submit Form nick from MA In the post from "presenttruth", one of the points made is "Justification is resting on God's completed work". I beg to differ. Justification is not a work of ours. Justification is not a work of God and a work of ours. Justification is the whole, completed, and right (as in judicial) work of God alone. Justification comes by grace alone through faith alone. Listen to what Hosea pleads with the Israelites to say in Hosea 14:2-3 "Take words with you, and return return to the Lord. Say to Him, ""Take away all iniquity; receive us graciously, for we will offer the sacrifices of our lips. Assyria will not save us, we will not ride on horses, nor will we say anymore to the work of our hands, 'You are our gods', for in You the fatherless finds mercy."

Now listen to God's response:

I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely..."

This is justification. Just like the guilty man who beat his chest and declared he was a sinner, and went away "justified".

In that phrase "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely", there is nothing short of the gospel of grace.

"Resting" in the context of what was presented in "presentingtruth" is not the "rest of faith" which is indeed what justifies a sinner before a holy and righteous God, ie. "resting" (faith) in the completed work of Christ on the cross for our propitiation and expiation (the taking of our sins upon Himself and exchanging our unrighteousness for His perfect righteousness), the "resting" implied in the post is most certainly a work, which then obligates God to justify us. Faith does not save you. Grace saves you: "For you have been saved by grace"..."...I will love them "FREELY" (emphasis added)

I think it's abundantly clear that we (Mike, Brian and I) agree that works cannot save. But the sticking point is how does the Law affect us in holiness toward God. I, for one, am not an antinomianist, I have not "thrown in the towel (chucked the Law). If I have intimated that in any way, that is my sin and I indeed repent. I will always agree that the Law is "Holy, righteous and good", it can be nothing less since it came from a holy, righteous, and good God. But I can't agree that the requirement to please God (obedience) is the Law. It's faith, pure and simple, in the completed work of atonement on the cross and ressurection of Christ from the grave, the central works of God for the justification of fallen man.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: Works God and Bad
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Romans 13:12 The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

Romans 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Acts 26:20 But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I showed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?


 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Bro Mike
From: Dear Brian
Sory about that post I forget to post them sometimes. Was not intentional.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brian
From: Brother Michael
Excellent choice of scriptures,and I embrace them as you do,

"however these do not establish the keeping of LAW as a necessary component of God's saving work"

in it's fullness from start to finish,but only point to Jesus who satisfied the ordinances (LAW) which we could not and were against us,nothing within the LAW gives anyone any power to fulfill it,it only stands to condemn an unbeliever and our tutor to convict us of sin and lead us to Christ by His grace, (see my passage from Colossians 2:8-17)and Christ's perfect obedience fulfilled the law which we could not and cannot do,you will agree with God's Word as I do that we must "be perfect as He is perfect",well,as you know there is only one way that happens-GRACE

You said,(unless I cant find it in my KJV),:"Now this is what I teach so if you don't want to follow the rules of the house (Law) then, you are not part of the house."

Whose house are we talking about?

"But in vain they do worship me,teaching for doctrine the commandments of men"-Matthew 15:9

Please help me understand in all Christian Charity

God's peace to you
Brian
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brian's
From: gentlemanly post
Hi Mike,Thanks for the reply to my second post,but what are you replying to anyway,somehow all but one sentence of my lengthy and gentlemanly post was deleted,was there a technical problem,I noticed one phrase remained though and that was edited,help me out here brother,have I said something to offend you personally,if so please accept my apologies,I do not believe this is the case based on the warm friendly tone and blind man smiley face after your name.

If you believe I was in error in the scriptures and Biblical arguments I employed,than you could have easily refuted them,if this is the case,you did not refute them and present your opinion.

I joined in on this discussion seeking the Truth as I believe you are as well,however if I am right and you censored me for no reason other than to attempt to state your case than this is nothing less that hypocrisy at best and demonic at worst,I for one, do not beleive this to be the case and know that "Love believes all things" (1 Cor. 13)and will give you the benefit of the doubt.

BTW-You quote the passages from the book of James (James 2:23)on God's justification of Abraham,and yes his obedience to God in his willingness to sacrifice demonstrated his faith,it proved he was a believer.Abraham was justified in Genesis 15:6 some 7 chapters and 30 yrs before the passage James quoted from Genesis 22:9,12.

God freely declared Abraham just by his grace first and gave him a new heart willing to obey,and nothing Abraham did or didnt do could change that Irresistable Grace of God.

What say Ye?
Blessings
Brian
 
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