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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: wOoden cHurch pAstors
Absolute power is what these guys have and this power corrupts them.

To force these ideas of one tenth giving against scripture is a display of absolute power.

That's how simple this subject is.

After giving 100% to a false prophet I began to see that all of cHurch corp's are set up to rule their subjects with absolute power.

Absolute money runs the woOden cHurch show.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Stair Tithe
stair teaches giving the leaders 100% .

I don't think all people are crooked, but I think they all mostly go along with the crowd.

For instance when this issue first came up for me on tithing I was 18 years old in a Baptist College.

Wow did I get rolled under with points of view.

My problem was that I was reading the Bible examples of real men of God.

Their are a lot of nice people in cHurches who are blindly doing whatever everyone else does.

It doesn't make them Holy and it doesn't make their error right.

Did stair teach me tithing is bad? No ralph wanted 100% and always suggested that the radio listeners could send their tithe if they wanted.

I don't know of any cHurch company that will even bring up the truth on this subject out of the word of God.

I will say this again.

You can not find an organized religion that teaches the Bible without getting all of the leaven that spoils the whole lump.

I have been to so many of these wooden cHurches that I lost count.

Their spirit is the same.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Tithe/Tenth/Lies
Jason Wrote:
"We also had a school to support. In all the years I was there, I can't remember one time that we were told we had to tithe. It was something done on your own free will. It was not a big issue"

Money is a Big issue in all wOoden cHurches. This is how the Pastor gets his bread and butter.

The Pastors get a house.

The Pastors get a nice Car.

The Pastors get all of their needs provided and a paycheck on top of that.

This is never taught in scripture.

Paul is one example and he never lived off of the sheoples money.

Paul was cornered on this subject so go read what happened.

Many small cHurch Corp's start small with hopes of hitting the big time. The preachers whine about how they work two jobs to keep their building open, hoping to get others to fund everything down the road.

The Pastors goal is to go full time.

Full time Bible reader who prays all of the time/fasting/very high up with GOD.

Garbage.

This is not what the Bible teaches us by example.

Men work by the SWEAT OF THEIR BROW.

It takes a lot of sweat to make a tent like Paul did while caring for all of the little sheople.

Reading the Bible and even this book will open our spiritual eyes.

Teaching the tithing/one tenth, money lie is THE biggest sham of our day.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: Good Churches
Tithe means tenth.

This is false to teach tenth giving seemingly not forced or otherwise.

If you are a Good Christian you will tithe right?

This is another force tactic.

Gentiles were never taught to TITHE IN THE BIBLE.

Now at your local cHurch they teach tIthe.

To help everyone to understand, I am setting up a new link here at THE NET TEAM so anyone who wants to get a hard copy of "SHOULD THE CHURCH TEACH TITHING" can.

It will be, "the ball in your court".

If you or anyone else wants to look at TITHING as scriptural, there is not a thing in the world anyone can do to go against their will.

However in light of the present day cHurch corporate machine based on many OTHER lies to suit its purposes, it stands to reason to look past all of our many years of mind washing coming from these same entities.

Giving free will offerings from ones abundance is right to do.

Tithing was something set up by God. All cHurches today (wooden Structures) teach TITHING based on lies.

Tithes were always only food items from inside the Holy Land of Israel.

Never once did God command Moses to tell the people to all give Ten percent of all of their incomes in cold hard cash as taught by the lying church corp's today.

Go read it. Leviticus states that only those other 11 tribes (Other than Levi) who were farmers or cattlemen were told to give one tenth.

God further stated he was not going to take the farmers hard earned produce to give to Levi, but that HE GOD was going to Up there increase causing the land or herd to yield greater amounts than they would have previously.

This takes God out of the begging category.

God does not need to beg to get his job done.

God is all powerful.

God tell us that a man reaps what he sows.
God teaches that a man enjoys what he works for and is not going to turn back on this statement.

God is not the slacker He painted to be where He has to go around passing the hat for MONEY.

The church beg money called tithes, against the teaching of the Bible.

The people may be wonderful really nice folks who are preaching lies without realizing it.

The Churches teach the false doctrine of tithes because they serve money and not God.

Now the people who give ignorantly through fears or because they want to help may be doing it out of a pure heart.

Their giving under false pretenses out of good conscience does not make the false doctrine taught now somehow suddenly TRUE.

They need the whole truth to be free and that is the purpose of the spirit of these lying wOoden ChUrches systems, to bring into bondage.

One only need to read further in scripture to see that this end time cHurch system is a lying system and that the real CHURCH OF JESUS is cast out of them.

Put to their deaths like when Jesus was here.

Tithing means tenth and everyone knows that.

One Tenth Teachings are lies coming from BLIND LEADERS, LEADING THE BLIND SHEOPLE.

AMEN!!

SHOULD THE CHURCH TEACH TITHE?

You can not serve God and Mammon.

This book is the spirit of the word of God and not of the spirit of cHurch corporations.

Jesus never Tithed, Peter Never Tithed because they were were not tillers of the soil or herdsmen.

Jesus was a carpenter and Peter was a fishermen.

Both used money in that Roman society.

Gods word has never once stated that ALL people Gave Ten Percent of ALL the money they made.

This is gross perversion.

The wOoden cHurch teaches perversion.

May we all receive the truth and be humble enough to shed that high minded snake skin of lies coming from the false cHurch.

All great people with good intentions, doesn't make it right.

Levi 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land, or of the fruit of the tree, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD.

32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.


 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Jason P Adams
From: Not Forced to Tithe
I don't know how other churches operate,but the one I grew up in used the tithe to keep the utilities on and for the basic operation of the church. We also had a school to support. In all the years I was there, I can't remember one time that we were told we had to tithe. It was something done on your own free will. It was not a big issue.
 
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Name: No Name
REBUTTALS OF TITHE-TEACHERS

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/id90.html
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Kings Tithe
Just to continue on the subject of the higher powers and the Judgment it should bring, we must remember the word of God and THE KINGS TITHE.

Way back when David was on the thrown the people paid what was called THE KINGS TITHE.

This was different than the tithe given to the Levites to sustain their families who served in the house keeping of God's Temple.

Only herdsmen and tillers of the soil were called upon for this tithe of these food items.

THE KINGS TITHE was established for building roads/buildings and many other city type tasks that helped the people to enter react with one another with greater ease.

The Kings tithe is used to bring order. This order always demanded some type of general Judicial common law rulings that applied to everyone.

Today the rulings are showing that money is gOd for these people, that's all.

Nothing new.

Also THE KINGS TITHE was used to build armies.

The KINGS TITHE was the same as our taxes today.

This is all recorded in the BOOK of THE KINGS and Chronicles.

This was set up when the peopled cried for a KING.

David set it up right, according to the will of GOD and this TITHE to the King that produced the Government for the PEOPLE has been used for centuries.

The Romans took over this taxation process when Israel was scattered.

The Romans rule is where the people of God have lived under for a very long time. To Govern means to regulate.

In fact the Book of Daniel states that this NEW WORLD ORDER GOV. would be revived once again as we see it to day.

If you are not a Jew in Israel by natural decent then you are considered a Gentile.

The Gentile Government for thousands of years has been ROMAN.

Like it or not the Gentiles have been stuck with this government order and is called THE HIGHER POWERS as found in the book of ROMANS written by PAUL.

Until Jesus comes and rules with HIS rod of iron, while the cat's away, as they say, the mice will play.

Judgment has been turned away back for a very long time and each generation gets their chance to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that they will have nothing to do with righteous Judgment.

The proof is in the pudding they tell me and what that means is that everyone gets their fair shake here in this life.

Each of us gets the opportunity to show our true colors whether good or bad.

This Gov/people/system/you name it, is GOD'S way of showing us who is on who's side.

What you see is what God has done.

Judgment does not have to be turned away back and in some instances even today, GODLY men and Women choose the right path that pleases God in their decisions.

Yet most are proving their hate for the righteous Judgment of the Almighty.

This is what God is doing all he has done it for, to make known the Holy and the profane and to bring in everlasting righteousness, the end of sin.

Go ahead and make HIS day fool, is stated in different ways often in scripture.

Yet men still think they can make a gOd out of whatever they choose, turning their backs on righteous Judgment.

Everyone of us needs to be a good Judge and we should long for righteous leaders who can execute good rules that keep the people rejoicing.

Don't let anyone tell you that righteous Judgment is evil or is not to be expected.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Hey Jason
The system is corrupt yes but we have to make the best of it. No other judgment is in operation today.

Brother Mike
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Judgment is turned backward
You are right about that Jason. The system is corrupt.

This verse tells us that the CHRUCH should not have to go to the worlds system for JUDGMENT.

It tells the Brothers how to get the Job done as well.

1 Cor 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.

Instead the average cHurch goer is told by the preach that they are not to Judge.

But the scripture is clear on matters of Judgment and all who read the Bible know what I mean.

It's clear who the tares are by their lack of oil of understanding.

God is THE GOD OF JUDGMENT.

Going to law before the unjust takes place when there is no JUDGMENT at all in the cHurch.

If people want to criticize the violated for seeking out Judgment from the world, being the only system willing to do it, then let them at least show us the Godly system that is set up like the OLD TESTAMENT was.

Or is the law of God done away with because your greasy grace preacher condenms judging?

Blind leading the blind.

Deut 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.
8 If there arise a matter too hard for thee in judgment, between blood and blood, between plea and plea, and between stroke and stroke, being matters of controversy within thy gates: then shalt thou arise, and get thee up into the place which the LORD thy God shall choose;
9 And thou shalt come unto the preist the Levites, and unto the judge that shall be in those days, and inquire; and they shall show thee the sentence of judgment:
 
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Name: Jason P Adams
From: Corrupted By Money
I've had plenty of experience with the justice "system". Not something I'm proud of, but it is what it is. The "system" is corrupted by money. Those with money can generally buy their way out of convictions. There are not alot of rich people in prison. Or jail.
 
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