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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Nick
From: MA.
As far as I can see, and I've searched for some time, "religianity" is not a word.

Just thought you might appreciate me speaking my mind (tongue planted firmly in cheek).

Any time you would like me to be you're personal grammatical, punctuational and/or etymological friend, I'll be there for you.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: The Net Team
From: Refresh Your Browser
http://www.thenetteam.net/

It's all updated Brothers
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Rowland
From: Ultimate Pastor
Paul was the ultimate "Full Time" Pastor to the flock as well as a Prophet as well as an Apostle.

Look at Paul's words and tell me where in scripture that a leader does not have to do any work (other than praying and so forth) to provide money to care of their own personal needs.

1 Cor 9:18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

Here Paul states that he is not looking for money as his reward and further goes out of his way to make sure no one gets the wrong idea saying that he preaches the Gospel "free of charge".

Now in verse 14 we read

1 Cor 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Most cHurches preach this verse as if it means that any man preaching the Gospel should live off the Tithes.

"Live of the Gospel" is twisted into "Live Off The Gospel"

This is a lie.

What the verse is saying is that if a Man is going to preach the Gospel then he should be a living example of good clean living.

In other words that the Preacher should not be going around saying "Do as I say not as I do"

An example is just that. Go do, what you preach that others should do.

You can not sit around collecting big checks living off of the working class and expect to be any kind of working example to them in their eyes.

To the working class money providers the preacher who mostly prays for everyone is something so far different to themselves it becomes impossible to see this cHurch hOly Man as something of a pattern for them to go by.

Therefore he is not a true leader. A head is a leader.

A head is a father. A father is a head and a leader. Look at Paul's words in Verse 18

"I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power in the gospel"

So we see that leaders are abusing their power in the Gospel who live off you the sheep.

2Cor 12:14 Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you; and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children.

15 And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you;

Paul Writes:

"for I seek not yours" in other words Paul was not coming over to them to get their money or goods

You will never hear this sermon preached in a moderm cHurch.

The sheep are the followers or children, they should not be taking care of a seasoned soldier in Christ.

These pansies in the pulpit today will not even preach against sin.

The men have long hair and now even marry eachother. The women do the same having their hair cut off shorter than what would be normal for a man.

Xmas,Tithing commandments,halloween and on and on is all fine in the wOoden cHurches today.

I have been in many assemblies where the teens walk in with their entire families in mini skirts and nothing is ever said to make waves.

2 Cor 11:28 Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches.

Like Paul didn't have much to do right? Yet Paul worked for his mula as a tentmaker.

Act 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.

Paul was out preaching and ran into someone who was the same occupation as he was.

"he abode with them, and wrought"

What does wrought mean? It means they worked.

I guess Paul was not busy enough to qualify for the easy money that comes at the cHurch show.

Jesus said:

Matt 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

Freely ye have received, freely give and don't go for the gold.

Fat Chance you will find a preacher delivering that message.

Ps better read da book
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Jason P Adams
From: Full Time Pastors
I have read all the testimonies on your site and can tell that most of them lean to the evangelical denominations. In that setting, most evangelical pastors really need to go "Full time". That form of religion is really spiritual in nature. Things are seen as coming from God directly or from satan. Absolutely black and white without a grey area. In my experience, the evangelical minister spent alot of time Re enforcing the faith within the congregation. He did'nt have much time for anything else. That is where things begin to get ignorent. Being in constant contact with the sheep gives the shepherd an almost unbreakable control over them. If that shepherd is truly under God's direction,then he'll be able to handle that position of authority in a Godly manner. If not,you get a Stair.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: Thanks Jason
I am using you to say things that would not normally be said because I know you are one of the few who are up front and are not fearful or easily offended.

Thanks for being there.

I only wish there were more that were not so afraid to speak their mind.

ps. many people are physically aged yet never grow past the milk toast of American religianity.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Jason P Adams
We're all adults here Bro.Mike. I don't take such things personally.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother Mike
From: wOoden cHurch
I am not trying to disagree with you Jason about the way your early cHurch experiences came about.

What I see is that most everyone basis their cHurch attendance mostly on the way they feel or the way they feel they should be treated.

With this format of trying to make the people feel good we as a society must produce a new religion for each person.

This is sickening to God.

God is God and He is who we are to focus on, not the people.

What about HIS feelings?
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Brother mike
From: Sunday School cHurch
Jason Wrote:

"The system I grew up in was "Tithe if you can,or give a small offering if you can't"......I never felt burdened"

Hello Jason

I have been in the high cHurches where this spirit you are referring to does not make the members who are not wealthy, feel bad for not giving.

They are so wealthy and have felt guilty so long they don't care anymore, they just want to give a couple of bucks to the less fortunate to feel Holy again.

I have been in cHurches where there were only 30 members and I was visiting. The Pastors will run over right after service asking where I tithe/ did I need a wife and said "God told me you need to tithe in this cHurch"

The point I am stressing is not how I felt.

Tithe means Tenth.

This is a lie to teach tithe regardless of how a particular sect/brand/corp makes you feel about their version of service to their religious order.

Teaching false doctrines like tithing put people under the banner of delusion.

Were have been deluded yes.

It's time now to shake ourselves and find the truth about the false religious groups we have been subjected to from our youth.

Parents often take their children to a wooden cHurch for various reasons.

#1Makes them feel like they did the right thing because this is where their parents took them.
#2They send their children on a Sunday school buss so their boy or girl does not see what they are drinking or smoking and turn out as bad as they are.

Most of these reasons are the wrong one.

Lies are very burdensome, mainly because the sheople live their entire lives believing them and suffering the consequences of that sin.

When the sheep could have been taught right.

The sheep are fleeced for their wool.(Mooch-O)

The sheep are kind and willing to overlook almost everything just to feel the warmth of kindness from anyone.

This is where these wolves enter into the fold.

Teaching the commandments of Men/Making void the commandments of GOD.

It's our traditions like you have stated Jay, that is passed down to us as children like every other sin you can name.

This destroys us.

Now we can choose which God we will serve as adults.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: Jason P Adams
I can follow that. I believe there are alot of pastors out there who are not really crooks,but really ignorent of the truth.

We've all been taught to follow certain standards concerning the church.

It may or may not be a biblical standard.

Standards then become traditions.

You know how we Americans are about our traditions.

The system I grew up in was "Tithe if you can,or give a small offering if you can't"......I never felt burdened.
 
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Submitted by Comments:
Name: RUSS KELLY
From: BIBLE CONVICTION
New Covenant giving is: freewill, sacrificial, generous, joyful, regular and motivated by love for God, fellow Christians and lost souls.

Do not burden or curse God's poor who struggle to feed and shelter their family.

Although there is no set percentage for Christians to give, all should give sacrificially or lower your standards of living in order to further the reach of the Gospel.
 
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